Playa$club Clan: Counter-Strike Source

I feel as if Bunny Hopping is kinda cheating and wondering if we can disallow it. Sorry that I'm not really posting my thoughts, but thats because I'm tired as hell.

Howdy,

Bunny hopping seems like cheating but it's not, it is normal movement with game controls. If we ban (BB) we also would have to ban ducking,
jumping, strafing and zig zags.

BB does seem like it gives an advantage, but if you know how to compensate for it, it doesn't. In fact, I think it is easier to track someone when
they bunny hop. They are repeating a pattern you can predict pretty easy, as compared to just one unexpected move. Say as in a last minute jump
before engagement (my favorite trick). BB done well does improve game play but I don't think it reaches the level we should consider as cheating.

Well put meatbag

I agree with what you've said, Meatbag. In my own lil informal manifesto on knifing (a little egotistical, sure) I've filtered out 3 types of knifing: "Footwork", "Aggro", and "Bunnyhop".

Footwork stems from simply using dextrous movements to primarily trick someone into missing in a swing, and thus giving you the first hit, or simply knowing how to move and ambush during the fight.

Aggro involves a complete disregard for movements that are not forward and directly toward the enemy--it's based entirely on Aggression, hence the name. This throws off someone trying to fake you out, and if they make the mistake of backing up, it gives you a sword opportunity.

Bunnyhop isn't something I can either do well, nor do I like. Jump around wildly, and throw the opponent off by getting in a strike at a higher elevation than thought possible.

The thing is that there's an obvious antidote to someone Bhopping against you, and Meatbag hit the nail on the head: TIMING! It takes timing on their part, in the first place, to Bhop; and in the second place, it's a simple matter for anyone who's been in a duel to time their strike and hit the hopper in mid air for the first strike. Hell, you could go even more advanced and crouch-strike.

This is just my perspective on Bunnyhopping in regards to Knifing. I'm not for banning it in the server, because I frankly am neither amused, nor intimidated by someone who can do it.

I voted to allow it and here's my take:

If someone knows how to do it well, you'll have others that are equally as good at reading it and countering it. It's as simple as that.

This argument could go as far as banning DE's or any other weapon for that matter. There are people that know how to use them well and others that don't. It's not an unfair advantage, just something that one has to work on. If one feels that BH is cheating or that hard to go up against, then they should learn what they are doing and get better at counter-attacking!

**I wrote this where it's not directed toward anyone, yet to everyone as to not cause a mis-direction of me calling out the OP**

I voted allow. I actually prefer when someone is trying to bunny hop knife me. I feel like I have the advantage b/c they are focused on trying to bunny hop while all my focus is on knifing them. Pretzel used to bunny hop knife at me until I learned how to combat it. He quickly stopped doing it. Just get your timing straight and you're good.

Aside from all that I think it's also wrong to call that cheating. It's taking advantage of the game physics. Not cheating. Everyone has an equal opportunity to learn.

Anyway... There's my thoughts.

i voted to allow because i agree with meatbag

i think bunny hoping i s a great skill if you think its good as cheating then go out and lern this skill. bunny hoping is just a skill like knifing or snipeing.. thats my take

This was written and given to me by Krazy, she brought up some points the other night and here they are

Bunny hopping (bhop, bh, bunny jumping) - "The term is most used in first-person shooters to refer to act of pressing the jump key while holding a movement key to move faster and/or to evade attacks more effectively. In several games based on Quake engines or their derivatives moving in a zigzag[2] pattern while bunny hopping (see strafe jumping) is the fastest way to move around and increases length of jumps, making the player an even more difficult target. While a zigzag movement pattern may not be the fastest way to get from one point to another in other games, players may feel that the protection provided by bunny hopping more than compensates for this disadvantage. Bunny hopping might also be required to gain speed to perform a trick jump or to provide better movement control while in mid-air (especially after performing a trick jump)." (Wikipedia; June 2008)

Bunny hopping is an advantage that can be learned by a player to achieve a faster movement speed. It has been around since half-life one, and creates a distinct advantage to the player who has mastered this technique.

Unfortunately, throughout the years bunny hopping has become such a coveted performance enhancer that players have created scripts that are used to mimic the effects without the manual hassle. Think of this bunny hopping script like driving an automatic car when you are used to driving manual. It is much easier, requires no focus to preform other than the obvious - don't hit the targets.

It is considered a hack by almost all of the competitive leagues for games including but not limited to TFC, CS 1.6, and CS:S; it has not been allowed in matches for years. Much like crouch walking, a player who is caught bunny hopping in a match can be called into question and the match can be contested. Anyone can press a button to obtain the desired effect, and there is no way to tell the difference between the script and a person actually preforming the act.

There are no accurate anti-cheats that are available to determine whether the client is infact bunny hopping of his own accord or using the script.

again thanks krazy

ya an i dont know how to do it lol